Game has not 1, not 2, not 3 but 4 splashscreens before the main menu.
That 4 too many. Stop having these.
Scrolling the "whats new" changelog with the mousewheel does not work.
It moves 1 line per two rotations. The game itself has a similar issue.
I need to jack the wheel multiple times to go from "single room" to "whole dungeon"
The game opened in 1440 despite me having a 1080 monitor.
Turning fullscreen off breaks the window. It does not resize and instead hangs the edge of the screen.
There is only one slider for volume.
"Skip tutorial" does not skip the tutorial. It asks you if you want to skip the tutorial.
1, 2 and 3 allow you to change the speed. Thats a good start for hotkeys.
I cant use wasd with my fingers. Wheres the rebind?
The scrolling speed of the main game is dependent on the zoom level.
Thats awful. And the scrolling is far too slow at a normal distance.
The game does not use "zoom to cursor". Thank you.
The game does not pause from opening the main menu.
Esc opens the main menu but does not close it again.
Esc opens the main menu even if other menus (like research) are open.
It needs to close those first.
The sound design for the idle dungeon is weird.
It sounds like alot is happening when there really isnt.
Especialy it sounds like someone is walking through a cave which made me think an intruder was in multiple times while writing this with the game open in the background.
quit nice, good start. still missing some.. im curious how your going to evolve to lust meter in the game. and it tend to get laggy after the game progress longer. i look forward to your future updates
very good! right now it's pretty bare bones so I'll check for updates in the future
something I'd like to see is some optimization. the game really chugs along after a few unlocks and rooms, leading me to lower the resolution greatly. it seems early in development so I hope that will be on the list.
I hope the prison will be easy to obtain naturally once its added cuz idk
I don't like killing the girls since it reminds too much of that "fetish" whenever I see the *dead* status
either that or an implementation of some sort of non lethal take down that while weak, removes the dungeon invader so that you could possibly obtain her later on.
also regarding the lore panel on the invader idk how to feel about it. like I'm gonna know more about the thing im about to kill. odd
edit- game still fun tho! and i'm happy to see it gain attention and receive updates
tl:dr - I don't like killing the pretty ladies :'(
can you add settings to change features you dont like eg crying or just wierd stuff that might be added in the future cuz i know somones gonna keep suggesting futa and id rather not see that
Im genuinely excited for this game to develop, I seriously think you have something that can blow up here and be hyper successful if pulled off correctly. There wasnt a lot to play with in the Alpha, but its just that an Alpha. Im very excited for you to continue development and ill be keeping a very close eye on this one for sure!
I hope the invasion start to include multiple heros coming in as the game progresses!
A note i found is that you can exploit unlimited research points from one girl. Just endlessly spank her over and over until she has an orgasm and reap the 500 research point reward. This process can be repeated non stop, since the NPC will be stuck in the process of endlessly needing to "rest" after a spanking.
suggestions: 1. pause button when i gotta afk for a quick sec. 2. permanent jail to house certain girls (if some are victorious in rescuing them and getting the treasure, they both escape.)
3. player invasions where we instead can raid adventure keeps, or villages to steal from them instead as the game gets bigger.
Im 100% on board for the 1st and 2nd one but I think invasions might stray to far from the original concept of the game. I'd love to see invasion heavily expanded upon and maybe even a breeding pit for really good guards.
This is a great, and fairly, unique concept and I'm looking foreword to seeing what it'll look like in the future. However, well it's still in development, I would like to share some of my thoughts and ideas for a future update.
First: it would be nice if once an adventurer steals from you you could get the gold back before they make it to the throne room. And to add on to this, maybe make it so the girls would drop gold according to their level.
Second: when a girl is fully nude, their should be a reward, like a special scene, or something along that line.
Third: the skeleton and slime should be upgradeable, either by gaining kills or threw the soon to be tech tree.
Fourth: their should be a "Trophy" room where if there's a girl that you like and you've defeated her you can put her in this room to play special scenes or even recruit them.
Fifth: (this one and the next one will be controversial) there should be beastfolk (furries) that also raid your lair. Different types mean harder, or easier, fights.
Sixth: Futa (this option should be optional in the settings for people that don't like this stuff)
This is just some ideas that I would personally like to see in the game, but I can understand if the last two would be to far. However, if the game is going in a promising way I would be more than happy to support you financially. Thank you
-you have a nice concept going on here, when will you add the tech tree? having base stats for the slime and skeleton is nice and all, however, to combat the adventurers that have higher resistances. it becomes hard to do certain things.
-Is there a command of some sort for once you completely strip the girls? I've gotten a few completely naked. no top, no bottom, no bra, no panty but nothing proceeds afterwards.
-As for opinion wise goes though, you should add some prison cells to capture "said npc" to work in various tasks like boosting gold output/increasing stats if placed as a "slave" of a guard(lose said slave if guard is defeated as a counter weight) or.. as in some other games here on itchio.. breeding that requires X amount of time to give a free replenish of lost guard.
-And to add, after reading other comments.. a PC with the following or better can run this on default settings.
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
This is the spec of my gtx960 rog laptop that was purchased back in 2016. haven't found anything better outside of self built that's within reasonable cost.
-@NSFP for your comment though.. welcome to the adult section of itch.io here you'll find people of all gender identities more so then the other sections. With that said, as a "female" myself. I see nothing wrong with the concept of this game. it's shares similarities of a console game I once played, however, that console game displayed much more "objectifying" as you call it then this game can ever do. But, one important thing to know and remember is. It's not real life. it's just a program. If you see it more then that, then you should stay away from adult themed games.
I tried to launch it again multiple times, and this time I managed to see the startup logos and main menu, not sure is this normal, but the main menu appears to be static.
When I clicked the option button, it made a sfx then it crashed, popping up a window like this.
I'm sorry, but it could be the case that the game can't be run on your system. Would you be able to tell if you had any trouble running other recent games made in Unity?
Do the Mind and Lust stats have any effect in the current build, or do bind attacks only exist to trade combat turns for animations?
It would be nice if the rules for where the dungeon entrance went were clarified; I had it jump halfway across the dungeon when I put a room too far to the left, allowing adventurers to bypass most of my traps.
A way to refund construction would also be nice, and remove a lot of the annoyance from things like something being built in a different room from what the player thought was selected.
Given that income and invasion chance both only happen once at the beginning of the day, and you can't build or place things while somebody is in the dungeon, I question the value of the countdown timer... I don't think the game would lose anything by being entirely turn-based, and it would reduce the impact of any glitches or annoyances in the control interface while you get that polished up.
Overall, I love the concept and it looks like you have a good foundation, so I definitely look forward to future developments!
Took me a few hours to get the hang of it, mostly happy with the game so far, my only gripe is the lack of content but I can't fault that considering it's so early into release, I've joined the patreon and i'm looking forward for what's to come with the game, all the best <3 - Am
This is a neat start. I have to ditto some of the other comments you've recieved. My GPU topped out and the fan went nuts, so you have something going wrong with the graphics somehwere. You could probably turn down the intense motion blur, that might help. And the room cost really does ramp up too sharply.
I had an issue of new buildings not going into the room I had selected, but instead into the room I had previouslyselected. That and the multiple guards in one room seems to not work at all.
Consider figuring out some types of monsters that fight without violent actions like punch and slash. Because... well you know, these "adventurers" are all unarmed, and I know some of them have a sixpack indicating they may be buff and well able to defend themselves, but beating up a bunch of women still feels very wrong. Especially considering half of them are just wandering around curiously. Fetishy-type attacks, on the other hand, might fit perfectly. Whips and paddles and tentacles would be better than swords, I think.
I like your goal to 'make adult games that are also fun'. There are still too many prudes out there trying to censor human nature and the world will be made only a better place if we can pump out enough naughtyness to rub their faces in a new spin on skin and sex every day. You are an inspired pioneer of tearing down the vile shame-culture the world has suffered for far too long.
But, with that said, please be cautious of making your work too exploitative. The objectification of women in this game is obviously deliberate, and that's a design choice you have the right to, but that doesn't mean it can't also take care to be respectful. I'm just saying it's worth putting some thought into.
On your last point, the whole point of a game like this is to take advantage of whoever wanders in. You aren't playing as the hero, but the equivalent of a demon lord as far as I can surmise.
As far as objectifying goes... Everything and everybody is an object. The difference for creatures is that we are animate objects and not inanimate objects. Also, kinda the point of the game. People are supposed to get off to it while having fun playing the game for what it is.
Objectifying a person is when you ignore the full scope and complexity of their individuality, and reduce the meaning of their existence to an object that serves only a basic function. As an example, sexual objectification is when you treat somebody like an object existing only for sexual satisfaction.
This is not a suggestion that it is right or wrong. There are times in life when people have a very simple need and want to be objectified in whatever way necessary to satisfy that need. Parasites crave self confidence, they want to be used as an object to worship, so they get rich and corrupt some militia and become rulers. The people they take rulership of are forced to objectify the parasite as something existing only to be worshiped, the parasite feels more confident because they now get to live in a worship-bubble, and so their craving is satisfied. Such things are natural for our species and affects us all somehow.
But, objectification can be done respectfully or disrespectfully. The objectification happening in this game is of women, and I'm not a woman so it's not my place to say if the way it is done is disrespectful. But I will say it seems to resemble very closely the same manner of sexual objectification that women have already said makes them feel disrespected.
If that's what the game is, then that's just what it is. My point to the developer was only to think about if that is what they really feel it should be.
Also, I realize this is the very first playable release, and future development may include features that dramatically change the tone of all that objectification. Maybe later on it won't seem disrespectful at all. I look forward to seeing what they choose to do with it.
This game isn't objectifying woman at all, the only thing that's getting objectified here are the in-game characters, they are already objects from programming.
If conservative faux-liberals are accusing this game has an agenda to objectify woman in real life, with video game characters, then let them accuse. Any sexual natural depiction of woman, any sex work, are considered objectifying woman by their vague standards anyways.
This is just an erotic game, not a political agenda. Any form of objectification is projected onto fictional characters.
If faux-liberal puritans think this is somehow a bad influence to gaming culture, then it just not only mean they aren't able to differentiate reality and fantasy, they are also a bunch of power-tripping assholes who places their dirty fingers on anything just to satisfy their fragile egos.
Are you the kind of submissive guy who will always submit to somebody's ego who are obviously power-tripping, in disguise behind an ideology?
Nobody in real life is getting objectified. Just look at the Japanese gaming and otaku culture, still business as usual without incidents. They loathe for the fact that power-tripping westerners are trying to force them to bend their knees just to fit their faux-liberal superficial ego.
Okay. I agree with you. o_O I mean, mostly, except that you don't seem to understand that fictional characters are typically designed to represent or refer to real people, sometimes individuals and sometimes groups. In the case of this game, those characters are women. Fictional or not, art or not, real people are affected by everything that is created.
But you appear to be aiming those remarks at me, as if to dispute something I've said.
I haven't made any accusations about anything. If you read my comments, I've been supportive throughout this thread.
Although, I do have to say I disagree with your, 'everybody else it doing it so it's okay' philosophy. That doesn't work for me.
Yes, fictional characters are based on real people, but they aren't related at all in the end unless specified so. A piece of art, whether its based on something, or its directly related to something are two completely different things.
Claiming that making a hentai game about female adventurers getting fucked by monsters, is directly related to objectifying woman in real life is just outright a ridiculous claim.
This is a clear example of apophenia, you are perceiving there is an connection between two completely unrelated things.
Let's use real pornstars as an example, since its more solid than fictional characters,
First example, when we are watching gay porn do we relate ourselves to the gay pornstars on screen? Like Dreamybull?
When Dreamybull masturbates in front of cam, in his car, while saying "Ambatukam", as men ourselves, do we feel related to him? Or we just having our own opinions not connected to his opinions about this act at all?
If somebody perceive this behaviour relates themselves to him, then claims he's promoting internal sexual objectification of men, do you think such a claim is well-established? Or just a form of outlandish apophenia?
Second example, when we take a look on Nikocado's Onlyfans content, do we perceive such an act is related to our sex and gender? Or do we relate their behavior with fatphobia?
I refuse to elaborate what I have seen on his Onlyfans. But still, if there's any claim about Nikocado's act is being related to promoting objectification of our own sex and gender, or related to fatphobia in general, is just a classic example of apophenia.
The similarity between these two porn content creators are, despite of their work, they have their own individuality and complexity outside of their job/hobby. Whatever they do during the filming, its all an act, with fictional scripts to create content for their audience, as a piece of art. Therefore, it is apophenic to connect their acts with promoting objectification of men.
They are objectifying themselves on film, but they sure aren't promoting objectification of person in real life.
If real life cases aren't considered objectifying person, then same goes to games that include sexual contents on female fictional characters. Its goal is to satisfy audiences with fictional sexual acts, following pieces of written scripts. It is indeed apophenic to connect sexual events in games, which is purely for entertainment purposes, with real life events.
You said you are being supportive throughout this thread, when its clearly discouraging when you are claiming the game dev is disrespecting women for making this game.
Your quote, "But, objectification can be done respectfully or disrespectfully. The objectification happening in this game is of women, and I'm not a woman so it's not my place to say if the way it is done is disrespectful. But I will say it seems to resemble very closely the same manner of sexual objectification that women have already said makes them feel disrespected."
If you perceive the creation of this game is directly connected to disrespecting woman in real life, how are you being supportive? You did pulled out an apophenia and claimed this game promotes sexism, for having sexual content.
I'd like to see it become more inclusive across the board, such as also men. The female characters are what would be relevant to me, but the 'something for everyone' style is also nice to have.
My graphics card exploded. 5 fps or so. Of course, I understand that my video card is outdated, GT 640M, but it pulls Crysis 3 at normal settings and dies in this game that weighs 80 MB. Please optimize it
Hello there, this is a very cool game with good dungeon building elements and the stuff that is to come is pretty exciting, but I would like know if there is a entity that can represent the player since having a disembodied voice going to convince/interact with the captured adventurer so that they could fight for them is a bit jarring (would be cool if it was a femboy).
But that is my only question/ suggestion and again very cool game would play it even if it never had any nsfw elements!
Fun to play so far, my only complaint is the scaling of the room cost. It scales much too quickly, to the point that once you have around 12 rooms, you likely won't increase your room count without having 4-6 invasions.
This creates a sense of stifled progress, especially since progress halts very suddenly.
very promising stuff! though even a rough tutorial would be greatly appreciated. I look forward to all of the wonderfull feature to be added in this game... maybe even men?
Doesn't seem to be much to do, but it's a great start!
Some good QOL improvements would be for time saving. The ability to have the adventurers go through the dungeon faster, and making battles go faster. As well as including tutorials, like what stats do/mean.
It'd be neat if any adventurers we defeat with certain requisites (high lust?) would stick around to be servants for your dungeon.
And I'd recommend (though this is a likely a long way off) adding fetishes in, and maybe different models depending on your comfort of doing so. Adding males would broaden the demographic, and according to stereotypes furries could bring a lot of funding to this project.
No matter what you decide to do with this game, you've certainly got a new follower in me.
Those are great suggestions, most are already being worked on or planned for later in the roadmap.
Tutorial and fast-forward buttons are in the works.
The servant feature you mentioned is already planned, but you'll need to capture the invaders during battle (using unique rooms and creatures you'll be able to research). You'll then need to subvert them to your will through interaction, dialogue and waiting through ingame days. Captured and converted invaders will be able to invade other procedurally generated dungeons for loot, having you play on the opposite side this time, or used as slaves for extra resource production.
Lust stat will probably have other uses related to countering the disadvantage of trying to raise it during battle. Having the invader achieve "full lust" will grant you resource bonuses.
Males, fantasy races, furries and futas are already planned as future researchable content (so you pretty much only research what you want to see!).
I'm really glad you're enjoying it :)
Join the Discord server if you wish to know more about what I'm planning for the game!
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Solid foundation for a game here. Lots of potential.
I was kind of expecting a capture mechanic, considering the name of the game, but maybe that's something for a future update.
Yea check the discord for all the up coming content. A lot of good ideas there.
There needs to be more optimisations, and settings to disable certain lag causing stuff
Game has not 1, not 2, not 3 but 4 splashscreens before the main menu.
That 4 too many. Stop having these.
Scrolling the "whats new" changelog with the mousewheel does not work.
It moves 1 line per two rotations. The game itself has a similar issue.
I need to jack the wheel multiple times to go from "single room" to "whole dungeon"
The game opened in 1440 despite me having a 1080 monitor.
Turning fullscreen off breaks the window. It does not resize and instead hangs the edge of the screen.
There is only one slider for volume.
"Skip tutorial" does not skip the tutorial. It asks you if you want to skip the tutorial.
1, 2 and 3 allow you to change the speed. Thats a good start for hotkeys.
I cant use wasd with my fingers. Wheres the rebind?
The scrolling speed of the main game is dependent on the zoom level.
Thats awful. And the scrolling is far too slow at a normal distance.
The game does not use "zoom to cursor". Thank you.
The game does not pause from opening the main menu.
Esc opens the main menu but does not close it again.
Esc opens the main menu even if other menus (like research) are open.
It needs to close those first.
The sound design for the idle dungeon is weird.
It sounds like alot is happening when there really isnt.
Especialy it sounds like someone is walking through a cave which made me think an intruder was in multiple times while writing this with the game open in the background.
quit nice, good start. still missing some..
im curious how your going to evolve to lust meter in the game.
and it tend to get laggy after the game progress longer.
i look forward to your future updates
excited to cum lots to this
very good!
right now it's pretty bare bones so I'll check for updates in the future
something I'd like to see is some optimization. the game really chugs along after a few unlocks and rooms, leading me to lower the resolution greatly. it seems early in development so I hope that will be on the list.
overall: great concept! fun.
very fun, hope to see more in the future
Itch isn't able to read the game so it doesn't let me choose a version to download, nothing appears.
I hope the prison will be easy to obtain naturally once its added cuz idk
I don't like killing the girls since it reminds too much of that "fetish" whenever I see the *dead* status
either that or an implementation of some sort of non lethal take down that while weak, removes the dungeon invader so that you could possibly obtain her later on.
also regarding the lore panel on the invader idk how to feel about it. like I'm gonna know more about the thing im about to kill. odd
edit- game still fun tho! and i'm happy to see it gain attention and receive updates
tl:dr - I don't like killing the pretty ladies :'(
Can you translate the game to Spanish in the future? it would be great
can you add settings to change features you dont like eg crying or just wierd stuff that might be added in the future cuz i know somones gonna keep suggesting futa and id rather not see that
Im genuinely excited for this game to develop, I seriously think you have something that can blow up here and be hyper successful if pulled off correctly. There wasnt a lot to play with in the Alpha, but its just that an Alpha. Im very excited for you to continue development and ill be keeping a very close eye on this one for sure!
I hope the invasion start to include multiple heros coming in as the game progresses!
A note i found is that you can exploit unlimited research points from one girl. Just endlessly spank her over and over until she has an orgasm and reap the 500 research point reward. This process can be repeated non stop, since the NPC will be stuck in the process of endlessly needing to "rest" after a spanking.
youre gold reserves are running low
suggestions:
1. pause button when i gotta afk for a quick sec.
2. permanent jail to house certain girls (if some are victorious in rescuing them and getting the treasure, they both escape.)
3. player invasions where we instead can raid adventure keeps, or villages to steal from them instead as the game gets bigger.
Im 100% on board for the 1st and 2nd one but I think invasions might stray to far from the original concept of the game. I'd love to see invasion heavily expanded upon and maybe even a breeding pit for really good guards.
will there be any male invaders for bisexual players?
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If they add that as a feature it should be an off and on content.
Agreed.
Spot on
ohhhh YES!
THE UPDATE
any update? :/
How do i capture someone?
not a mechanic, but let's hope he adds it
Currently it looks like its a "in progress" feature. Im very excited for i
very crude as of now with only basic mechanics on display but i think this is gonna be a great one once it gets more content
This is a great, and fairly, unique concept and I'm looking foreword to seeing what it'll look like in the future. However, well it's still in development, I would like to share some of my thoughts and ideas for a future update.
First: it would be nice if once an adventurer steals from you you could get the gold back before they make it to the throne room. And to add on to this, maybe make it so the girls would drop gold according to their level.
Second: when a girl is fully nude, their should be a reward, like a special scene, or something along that line.
Third: the skeleton and slime should be upgradeable, either by gaining kills or threw the soon to be tech tree.
Fourth: their should be a "Trophy" room where if there's a girl that you like and you've defeated her you can put her in this room to play special scenes or even recruit them.
Fifth: (this one and the next one will be controversial) there should be beastfolk (furries) that also raid your lair. Different types mean harder, or easier, fights.
Sixth: Futa (this option should be optional in the settings for people that don't like this stuff)
This is just some ideas that I would personally like to see in the game, but I can understand if the last two would be to far. However, if the game is going in a promising way I would be more than happy to support you financially. Thank you
few things..
-you have a nice concept going on here, when will you add the tech tree? having base stats for the slime and skeleton is nice and all, however, to combat the adventurers that have higher resistances. it becomes hard to do certain things.
-Is there a command of some sort for once you completely strip the girls? I've gotten a few completely naked. no top, no bottom, no bra, no panty but nothing proceeds afterwards.
-As for opinion wise goes though, you should add some prison cells to capture "said npc" to work in various tasks like boosting gold output/increasing stats if placed as a "slave" of a guard(lose said slave if guard is defeated as a counter weight) or.. as in some other games here on itchio.. breeding that requires X amount of time to give a free replenish of lost guard.
-And to add, after reading other comments.. a PC with the following or better can run this on default settings.
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.59 GHz Installed RAM 16.0 GB
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
This is the spec of my gtx960 rog laptop that was purchased back in 2016. haven't found anything better outside of self built that's within reasonable cost.
-@NSFP for your comment though.. welcome to the adult section of itch.io here you'll find people of all gender identities more so then the other sections. With that said, as a "female" myself. I see nothing wrong with the concept of this game. it's shares similarities of a console game I once played, however, that console game displayed much more "objectifying" as you call it then this game can ever do. But, one important thing to know and remember is. It's not real life. it's just a program. If you see it more then that, then you should stay away from adult themed games.
Android?
Looks promising, but definitely needs some optimization. My GPU skyrocketed just playing on Low quality.
May I ask what is the minimum requirement to run this game?
I can't seem to launch the game properly on Itch app. Just pitch black screen.
I tried to launch it again multiple times, and this time I managed to see the startup logos and main menu, not sure is this normal, but the main menu appears to be static.
When I clicked the option button, it made a sfx then it crashed, popping up a window like this.
I'm sorry, but it could be the case that the game can't be run on your system. Would you be able to tell if you had any trouble running other recent games made in Unity?
Could you share your system specs, please?
Thanks!
I have no trouble running other recent games in Unity.
My system specs is Windows 10 x64, Processor 2.90GHz, 4.00 GB RAM
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Not bad looking art, so do use use the minions to breed more minions with bitches or boost their loyalty.
Do the Mind and Lust stats have any effect in the current build, or do bind attacks only exist to trade combat turns for animations?
It would be nice if the rules for where the dungeon entrance went were clarified; I had it jump halfway across the dungeon when I put a room too far to the left, allowing adventurers to bypass most of my traps.
A way to refund construction would also be nice, and remove a lot of the annoyance from things like something being built in a different room from what the player thought was selected.
Given that income and invasion chance both only happen once at the beginning of the day, and you can't build or place things while somebody is in the dungeon, I question the value of the countdown timer... I don't think the game would lose anything by being entirely turn-based, and it would reduce the impact of any glitches or annoyances in the control interface while you get that polished up.
Overall, I love the concept and it looks like you have a good foundation, so I definitely look forward to future developments!
Took me a few hours to get the hang of it, mostly happy with the game so far, my only gripe is the lack of content but I can't fault that considering it's so early into release, I've joined the patreon and i'm looking forward for what's to come with the game, all the best <3 - Am
will h scenes be added
This is a neat start. I have to ditto some of the other comments you've recieved. My GPU topped out and the fan went nuts, so you have something going wrong with the graphics somehwere. You could probably turn down the intense motion blur, that might help. And the room cost really does ramp up too sharply.
I had an issue of new buildings not going into the room I had selected, but instead into the room I had previously selected. That and the multiple guards in one room seems to not work at all.
Consider figuring out some types of monsters that fight without violent actions like punch and slash. Because... well you know, these "adventurers" are all unarmed, and I know some of them have a sixpack indicating they may be buff and well able to defend themselves, but beating up a bunch of women still feels very wrong. Especially considering half of them are just wandering around curiously. Fetishy-type attacks, on the other hand, might fit perfectly. Whips and paddles and tentacles would be better than swords, I think.
I like your goal to 'make adult games that are also fun'. There are still too many prudes out there trying to censor human nature and the world will be made only a better place if we can pump out enough naughtyness to rub their faces in a new spin on skin and sex every day. You are an inspired pioneer of tearing down the vile shame-culture the world has suffered for far too long.
But, with that said, please be cautious of making your work too exploitative. The objectification of women in this game is obviously deliberate, and that's a design choice you have the right to, but that doesn't mean it can't also take care to be respectful. I'm just saying it's worth putting some thought into.
On your last point, the whole point of a game like this is to take advantage of whoever wanders in. You aren't playing as the hero, but the equivalent of a demon lord as far as I can surmise.
As far as objectifying goes... Everything and everybody is an object. The difference for creatures is that we are animate objects and not inanimate objects. Also, kinda the point of the game. People are supposed to get off to it while having fun playing the game for what it is.
Objectifying a person is when you ignore the full scope and complexity of their individuality, and reduce the meaning of their existence to an object that serves only a basic function. As an example, sexual objectification is when you treat somebody like an object existing only for sexual satisfaction.
This is not a suggestion that it is right or wrong. There are times in life when people have a very simple need and want to be objectified in whatever way necessary to satisfy that need. Parasites crave self confidence, they want to be used as an object to worship, so they get rich and corrupt some militia and become rulers. The people they take rulership of are forced to objectify the parasite as something existing only to be worshiped, the parasite feels more confident because they now get to live in a worship-bubble, and so their craving is satisfied. Such things are natural for our species and affects us all somehow.
But, objectification can be done respectfully or disrespectfully. The objectification happening in this game is of women, and I'm not a woman so it's not my place to say if the way it is done is disrespectful. But I will say it seems to resemble very closely the same manner of sexual objectification that women have already said makes them feel disrespected.
If that's what the game is, then that's just what it is. My point to the developer was only to think about if that is what they really feel it should be.
Also, I realize this is the very first playable release, and future development may include features that dramatically change the tone of all that objectification. Maybe later on it won't seem disrespectful at all. I look forward to seeing what they choose to do with it.
This game isn't objectifying woman at all, the only thing that's getting objectified here are the in-game characters, they are already objects from programming.
If conservative faux-liberals are accusing this game has an agenda to objectify woman in real life, with video game characters, then let them accuse. Any sexual natural depiction of woman, any sex work, are considered objectifying woman by their vague standards anyways.
This is just an erotic game, not a political agenda. Any form of objectification is projected onto fictional characters.
If faux-liberal puritans think this is somehow a bad influence to gaming culture, then it just not only mean they aren't able to differentiate reality and fantasy, they are also a bunch of power-tripping assholes who places their dirty fingers on anything just to satisfy their fragile egos.
Are you the kind of submissive guy who will always submit to somebody's ego who are obviously power-tripping, in disguise behind an ideology?
Nobody in real life is getting objectified. Just look at the Japanese gaming and otaku culture, still business as usual without incidents. They loathe for the fact that power-tripping westerners are trying to force them to bend their knees just to fit their faux-liberal superficial ego.
Okay. I agree with you. o_O I mean, mostly, except that you don't seem to understand that fictional characters are typically designed to represent or refer to real people, sometimes individuals and sometimes groups. In the case of this game, those characters are women. Fictional or not, art or not, real people are affected by everything that is created.
But you appear to be aiming those remarks at me, as if to dispute something I've said.
I haven't made any accusations about anything. If you read my comments, I've been supportive throughout this thread.
Although, I do have to say I disagree with your, 'everybody else it doing it so it's okay' philosophy. That doesn't work for me.
Yes, fictional characters are based on real people, but they aren't related at all in the end unless specified so. A piece of art, whether its based on something, or its directly related to something are two completely different things.
Claiming that making a hentai game about female adventurers getting fucked by monsters, is directly related to objectifying woman in real life is just outright a ridiculous claim.
This is a clear example of apophenia, you are perceiving there is an connection between two completely unrelated things.
Let's use real pornstars as an example, since its more solid than fictional characters,
First example, when we are watching gay porn do we relate ourselves to the gay pornstars on screen? Like Dreamybull?
When Dreamybull masturbates in front of cam, in his car, while saying "Ambatukam", as men ourselves, do we feel related to him? Or we just having our own opinions not connected to his opinions about this act at all?
If somebody perceive this behaviour relates themselves to him, then claims he's promoting internal sexual objectification of men, do you think such a claim is well-established? Or just a form of outlandish apophenia?
Second example, when we take a look on Nikocado's Onlyfans content, do we perceive such an act is related to our sex and gender? Or do we relate their behavior with fatphobia?
I refuse to elaborate what I have seen on his Onlyfans. But still, if there's any claim about Nikocado's act is being related to promoting objectification of our own sex and gender, or related to fatphobia in general, is just a classic example of apophenia.
The similarity between these two porn content creators are, despite of their work, they have their own individuality and complexity outside of their job/hobby. Whatever they do during the filming, its all an act, with fictional scripts to create content for their audience, as a piece of art. Therefore, it is apophenic to connect their acts with promoting objectification of men.
They are objectifying themselves on film, but they sure aren't promoting objectification of person in real life.
If real life cases aren't considered objectifying person, then same goes to games that include sexual contents on female fictional characters. Its goal is to satisfy audiences with fictional sexual acts, following pieces of written scripts. It is indeed apophenic to connect sexual events in games, which is purely for entertainment purposes, with real life events.
You said you are being supportive throughout this thread, when its clearly discouraging when you are claiming the game dev is disrespecting women for making this game.
Your quote, "But, objectification can be done respectfully or disrespectfully. The objectification happening in this game is of women, and I'm not a woman so it's not my place to say if the way it is done is disrespectful. But I will say it seems to resemble very closely the same manner of sexual objectification that women have already said makes them feel disrespected."
If you perceive the creation of this game is directly connected to disrespecting woman in real life, how are you being supportive? You did pulled out an apophenia and claimed this game promotes sexism, for having sexual content.
I can only do building elements and nothing else goes on at all. Is that all there is to do right now?
have femboy or trans?
I'd like to see it become more inclusive across the board, such as also men. The female characters are what would be relevant to me, but the 'something for everyone' style is also nice to have.
your game are amazing
optimize it will better :)
My graphics card exploded. 5 fps or so. Of course, I understand that my video card is outdated, GT 640M, but it pulls Crysis 3 at normal settings and dies in this game that weighs 80 MB. Please optimize it
Hello there, this is a very cool game with good dungeon building elements and the stuff that is to come is pretty exciting, but I would like know if there is a entity that can represent the player since having a disembodied voice going to convince/interact with the captured adventurer so that they could fight for them is a bit jarring (would be cool if it was a femboy).
But that is my only question/ suggestion and again very cool game would play it even if it never had any nsfw elements!
Fun to play so far, my only complaint is the scaling of the room cost. It scales much too quickly, to the point that once you have around 12 rooms, you likely won't increase your room count without having 4-6 invasions.
This creates a sense of stifled progress, especially since progress halts very suddenly.
very promising stuff! though even a rough tutorial would be greatly appreciated. I look forward to all of the wonderfull feature to be added in this game... maybe even men?
Thank you!!
A tutorial is being worked on, and will come soon!
Doesn't seem to be much to do, but it's a great start!
Some good QOL improvements would be for time saving. The ability to have the adventurers go through the dungeon faster, and making battles go faster. As well as including tutorials, like what stats do/mean.
It'd be neat if any adventurers we defeat with certain requisites (high lust?) would stick around to be servants for your dungeon.
And I'd recommend (though this is a likely a long way off) adding fetishes in, and maybe different models depending on your comfort of doing so. Adding males would broaden the demographic, and according to stereotypes furries could bring a lot of funding to this project.
No matter what you decide to do with this game, you've certainly got a new follower in me.
Thank you!!
Those are great suggestions, most are already being worked on or planned for later in the roadmap.
Tutorial and fast-forward buttons are in the works.
The servant feature you mentioned is already planned, but you'll need to capture the invaders during battle (using unique rooms and creatures you'll be able to research). You'll then need to subvert them to your will through interaction, dialogue and waiting through ingame days. Captured and converted invaders will be able to invade other procedurally generated dungeons for loot, having you play on the opposite side this time, or used as slaves for extra resource production.
Lust stat will probably have other uses related to countering the disadvantage of trying to raise it during battle. Having the invader achieve "full lust" will grant you resource bonuses.
Males, fantasy races, furries and futas are already planned as future researchable content (so you pretty much only research what you want to see!).
I'm really glad you're enjoying it :)
Join the Discord server if you wish to know more about what I'm planning for the game!